“Rinzai Zen buddhism it was the tradition that trained the Samurai in ancient Japan. When i was in prison i had a Zen master that would come back and forth from Japan to the prison and you know, i set Zen meditation for years and honestly i did not get as much out of years of eastern practices as i did months of ceremonial magic, and i think part of that it's the same goal, they're both aiming at the same thing, western mysticism and eastern mysticism, but whenever we especially someone coming from my background you know, just poor white trash from Arkansas who has no connection to any eastern tradition at all, i had to learn that stuff from scratch, so it was like learning an entire different language, whereas magic deals with western iconography, symbolism, things that we've grown up having shoved into our psyche from the second we came into this world, so i think part of a some really deep internal part responds to it a lot quicker than it does to eastern traditions.”

Fuente: The Duncan Trussell Family Hour Podcast #314 with Damien Echols.